‘Rigged’ election claims then and now

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President Biden and other leading Democrats are aghast that so many Donald Trump supporters don’t accept the results of the 2020 election. But as these two videos by Matt Orfalea show, the shoe was on the other foot for the 2016 election.

First there was the campaign to persuade members of the Electoral College to vote for candidates other than the ones the voters chose.  

Then came the charges that the election result was somehow the result of a conspiracy between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.  All the specific claims in the bogus Russiagate scandal were debunked.  

Nevertheless Democrats proceeded with an impeachment trial on the claim that Trump had tried to obstruct the investigation of the nonexistent crime, which failed.  

Then they tried again for impeachment on the claim that Trump urged the President of Ukraine to investigate a corrupt corporation in his county for the purpose of discrediting Joe Biden.  This, too, failed.

Now they are pursuing criminal investigations of Trump’s business dealings and of his failure to turn over classified information.  Of course Trump may well be guilty of something and, if tried and convicted, he should pay the usual fine.

I think the motive for these investigations is to find something – anything – that would discredit Trump or possibly prevent him from running again.  I recall Democrats took a different stance about Hillary Clinton’s problems with handling classified information.

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Here’s the thing.  It is not a crime to claim that an election is rigged.  It is not a crime to deny that an election result is legitimate.  If you believe that, and say so, this is an expression of your right to free speech. 

I myself think there is a strong possibility that the 2016 election result was swayed by hacking of voting machines.  Tests of certain voting machines showed that the results could be altered, both on-site and remotely, and that there was no way to detect the results.

I’m not claiming this is evidence that Russians could have hacked these voting machines.  I’m claiming it is proof that almost anybody could have hacked these voting machines.

There were also widespread attempts to illegitimately purge voter rolls of black people.  Investigative reporter Greg Palast has been on this topic like a bulldog.  

I am certain that the result of the 2000 election was determined by illegal purging of voter rolls in Florida and may also have been influenced by a miscount of ballots.

It also is very possible that there was ballot-tampering in the 2020 election, although, if it was, it is just as likely that it was done by Republicans as Democrats.  Yes, Republicans are the ones making the most noise about this.   Recall the strategy of Karl Rove was to accuse one’s opponents of the thing you are doing yourself.

Once the election is held, it is too late to change the result.  There is a fine line between protesting the results of an election, which citizens have every right to do, and making an insurrection or coup to overturn the results.

The proper response to past cheating is to prevent future cheating.  Get rid of the hackable voting machines.  Have better bipartisan monitoring of the elections.

Then, too, it is possible to block a democratic election without breaking the law.  This is the great danger with the 2024 elections.

Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution states: “Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the legislature thereof my direct, a number of electors… .”  The Constitution also gives the state legislatures the authority to appoint Senators, but allows for national legislation to override the legislatures.

There is a movement afoot in certain states by Republicans to deny voters the right to choose electors and give it to the state legislatures.  There also are movements to restrict the voting franchise.  This is a more serious attack on democracy than anything that happened Jan. 6.

None of this necessarily involves lawbreaking, and it can’t be stopped by investigations or law enforcement.  It takes political action to stop it.  If Democrats are serious about protecting the integrity of elections, that’s what they’ll focus on.

LINKS

Memory Holed: “The Election Was Hacked” by and  for TK News.

Memory Holed Part II: The “Rigged” Election by and  for TK News.

 

 

 

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5 Responses to “‘Rigged’ election claims then and now”

  1. Louis Merris Says:

    Andrew Cuomo added back voters who had been purged during the Giuliani and Pataki years as being suspect.

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  2. Fred (Au Natural) Says:

    And then there was Bush v. Gore. Watched the votes being counted and I did not feel comfortable with how it was going down. Is a hanging chad a valid vote? How about a dimpled chad? Why wouldn’t hanging chads statewide mirror the chadless votes statewide? Are Democrats more prone to inability to punch a hole in a card?

    Gore accepted the ruling of the court in Bush v. Gore which is what I expect of a politician in a rules based democracy.

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/531/98/

    I personally wish Gore had won because then there’d not have been an Iraq war 2.0.

    You don’t try to raise an insurrection over a close election unless you think the end justifies the means and that an election is just one of several equally valid routes to power. So Trump is a much greater menace to democracy than Hillary.

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  3. silverapplequeen Says:

    They said that JFK’s election was rigged, too.

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    • philebersole Says:

      In 1960, John F. Kennedy carried Illinois by 9,000 votes. His total included a suspiciously high margin of victory in Cook County, where the Daley machine was known for casting votes in the name of dead people, former residents and people confined to nursing homes, and for finding ways to make the secret ballot non-secret.

      Chicago And Rigged Elections? The History Is Even Crazier Than You’ve Heard

      Ex-President Harry Truman responded to criticisms by saying anything the Daley organization did was necessary to offset voter fraud in Republican downstate Illinois.

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    • philebersole Says:

      But Nixon didn’t ask that the results of the election be set aside, or try to stop the electoral votes from being counted.

      Anyhow, the fact that the voting process has been corrupted in the past is not a justification for corrupting the process today.

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